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  Is it a case of; the more you know, the more disillusioned you become?

  by jambon1 in

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  i really feel that if you have had any kind of responsibility in the org then you are more likely to start becoming disillusioned.

  having an appointment exposed me to all sorts of things that i simply would`nt have known about had i not been in that position.

  anyone concur?

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  As has been pointed out there are two things that happen - one you get deeper into it from an organisational point of view, or two you realise how unchristian it all is with endless man made rules.

  I was fortunate enough to be so worn out by it all that I wasnt feeding myself all the propagander from their literature, only hearing some at the meetings. Even that was enough to draw me right in though. But I never got appointed because the closer I became and the older I got the more my eyes were opened to the politics of the congregation, something I didnt want to be a part of. I remember being one of a group of friends who were all servants except me, and they would talk about which job's they wanted and boast about it all to each other. It was like a popularity contest.

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  Should I admit to JWs that I am disfellowshipped?

  by jwfacts in

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  i know about 2000 jws in sydney, and have 50 that are tax clients, so barely a week goes by without bumping into someone i know.

  it seems that few of them realise that i am disfellowshipped because they talk freely to me.

  last week i accidently sat next to an elder on the train and we engaged in small talk for over 30 minutes.. should i admit to these people that i am not a jw?.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I just had a situation where my soon to be brother in law came round to my dad's house to talk to him and I was there and answered the door to him. Although I myself feel a bit uncomfortable knowing what its like to be a witnoid facing a dfd person, I try to not play by their rules and converse normally with them. Its kinda funny to see them struggling to know what to do.

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  Your weekend

  by KW13 in

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  what did you lot do this weekend?.

  i had a friend i met on the web come down, been to the pub and had a laugh

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Took my daughters to the Biggin Hill Air show, they were bored to tears while I enjoyed it!

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  Another Anti-climactic weekend....JWs you can breathe again

  by LDH in

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  yep, so much anticipation and adrenaline used in preparation for the district convention.. well, we've just passed the first weekend of conventions and what do we see?

  are there any earth-shattering revalations?

  did anyone (ex-jw) who attended the conventions come back here and tell us they heard one scintilla of evidence that these people speak for god?.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  One of the best things about leaving is not having to tollerate these conventions ever again! As you say the same old drivel dished out year after year. So boring they were that I would take binoculars to look at the crowds and see if I could spot anybody I knew, that and watching the planes go by (this was at twickenham - near Heathrow Airport)

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  Do the JWs believe that the great tribulation is happening now?

  by whyizit in

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  i just wondered about this, because in rev.

  7:9, it speaks of the great crowd and in verse 14 and says that these are the ones that came out of the great tribulation.

  verse 15 further states that they are before the throne of god, serving him day and night in his temple.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I look forward to reading the replies, as you say by reading the Bible alone without the thoughts of others you come to a different understanding as far as what the WTS teach.

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  Elders appointed by Holy Spirit???

  by wozadummy in

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  do you remember years ago this was mentioned among the brothers in conversations about elders?

  yet i cannot ever recall being directed to a scripture which proved all elders were appointed by holy spirit.

  it seems that everyone just accepted that they were, including myself , and yet how is this possible considering how many i've seen were corrupt when appointed.. any others think about this when in the org

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  As you say there is no scripture that directly says this, the way they say they are appointed by holy spirit, is that the Bible was written by means of it, and therefore the qualifications set out there in. But as you know its easy to be a white washed grave!

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  Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?

  by Severus in

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  the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.

  after the waters had receeded.

  after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.

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  One question I could never answer re: the flood, by a study, was how did the animals cross the continents? Say a kangaroo? How come they only live on one continent? Did they go back to where they came from? How did they get there? The only answer I could find from the society was continental ridges - which sounds very far fetched to me.

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  What Are Words Or Expressions Peculiar To JWs???

  by minimus in

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  jws have their own terminology.

  it's a characteristic of a cult.

  here's a few: "new system", the friends" and the "body".......can you think of more?

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  It was mentioned before but I had to say it again as i used the term on my ex wife who is a JW. We were arguing and she accused me of being cagey about some information, and imediately i said i'm just using 'theocratic warfare' on you, as I dont feel you entitled to know the information!

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  Another reason the WTS doesn't want JWs on the net?

  by Lady Lee in

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  we all pretty well understand that the wts tells jws that bing on the internet is dangerous to their spiritual standing because people on the net are controlled by satan

  but... maybe there is a second reason.we also know that the wts believes if people read the wt literature they will come to the wrong conclusions.

  people require someone to sit with them and read every paragraph of a wt book to make sure they understand the book in the right way.we know the website for the wts is pretty sanitized so people don't run off too quicklywe know there is no place on the wts' website for discussion.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  What your saying is that they will only talk to people if they do it by their rules, in the safety of an environment they create. As you say they simply walk away when the going gets tough as their minds have been conditioned to act by their leaders.

  How many of us would admit to being stumbled by someone who has a genuine argument on the doors, saying we will research and come back, only to shut our minds to it and never return, because they are 'trying to weaken our faith'.

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  Hope you enjoy this story :-)

  by hippikon in

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  a funny thing happened at the office.

  with my current job i look after a team of commission based sales people (about 400 so i dont know them all intimately).

  one of these sales people in a remote town started cheating the company by applying staff discounts to people who werent staff and trying to claim promotional benefits for promotions he didnt do etc.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  That is a great story! And its reminded me of one that happened in my family.

  My dad was sales manager and had a witness elder from my old congregation in his team. Anyway the company got taken over and a shake up was occuring and a very critical eye was put on the sales team. So my dad's boss asks about the elders sales figures and why they are low (lol sounds like ministry reports!) And instead of letting my dad speak with him, this guy follows the elder and finds that he goes down the pub for extended lunch break's and has him fired! Justice indeed. except he wont be shunned by other members of that company!

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